Interview With An Author
I: Thank you for
coming here today.
A: It’s a big deal
for me, thank you.
I: You do seem to
prefer to stay out of the limelight.
Does that create a tension with your fame?
A: It does. But … I get overstimulated around people, too
much dopamine. I live a lot in my own
head. Hence the worlds I’ve
created. … Plus, it’s painful.
I: Painful? You
mean going out in public?
A: Yes.
I: How’s that?
A: There’s so much
potential for flourishing and happiness in humanity. But parasitic power structures shut the
potential down. I see it more, whenever
I go out.
I: That sounds like Invasion of the Body Snatchers! Can you give an example of that.
A: Well, I don’t
want to get too specific, as I’ll get attacked.
But we’re talking social control mechanisms. … You know, as in ‘the future of an
illusion’.
I: Religion?
A: That’s one
example. Though of course religion and
spirituality can be wonderful and healthy.
The parasitic control mechanisms are part of every institution, the very
fabric of society.
I: This is an existential issue, then? People being shallow and conformist, sleepwalking
through their lives? Or living in quiet
desperation?
A: That’s seems right. But existentialists are often part of the
problem. Nietzsche’s misogyny is one
case.
I: But Simone de Beauvoir
wrote the Second Sex.
A: Yes, she succeeds
in challenging the social programs in our heads. Also, W.E.B Du Bois. He addressed racism, and related states of
mind, such as his theory of “double consciousness.”
I: So racial and
gender injustice are a big part of this parasitic power structure.
A: Racism, sexism, and other forms of oppression are all
around us, in ads, shows, bureaucracies.
They dwell in our own behavior.
I: Is this
conscious?
A: Not often. If it is, it’s horrible, of course. But unintended bias can be just as bad. So-called soft racism.
I: And oppression
helps those in power stay in power.
A: The powerful
make the oppressed groups a scapegoat. That
way they evade accountability. And build
a loyal following of the privileged group.
I: White
privilege.
A: Absolutely.
I: So, when you go
out in public and see--
A: Look, it’s not
just oppression that I’m talking about. Say
you have 1000 people who start out as equals, on a level playing field. Now, some small percentage of them are going
to realize that they can control the rest through manipulation, using fear to
circumvent common sense and logic. This
small percent is also driven by their own fear and insecurity. A need for approval, greed, domination, that
sort of thing.
I: Wow, and so
that results in?
A: The kind of
parasitic power structures I mentioned above.
Fear controls people’s behavior and makes them serve unhealthy, greedy
leaders. When you are broken this way, well,
you are harnessed, you are used by the parasite. The vampire feeds. It affects your entire psyche.
I: Donald Trump is
clearly on your mind.
A: Yes, and isn’t
it sad to go out in public and see--to just see it--right there. The effects. The rulership of fear. The victory of conspiratorial anti-logic.
I: But we also--
A: Look at Xi in
China, Modi in India, Putin in Russia, Duterte in the Philippines, Bolsonaro in Brazil, Chavez in Venezuela … in fact most of the world is controlled by
fear-mongers. And so it has been since the
beginning of civilization.
I: That far really?
A: How old is patriarchy? It’s hard to even comprehend the crushed
potentials of so many thousands of years, during which women were silenced and
treated as property.
I: It is hard to fathom, but it is so true.
A: Fear tends to
win. It has won. We humans have never lived in a civilization where
fear wasn’t the dominant control principle.
We need to realize this. The deck
is stacked toward fear winning. A change would be truly revolutionary.
I: So, what is the
solution? Is there a way out?
A: The solution …
actually there has been progress since, say, the 18th century. A combination of science and prosperity has
led to enlightenment. Major movements. Still, we’re
stuck in a catch-22.
I: How so?
A: Because people
are more psychological than rational--
I: And so get
manipulated by propaganda.
A: Propaganda,
demagoguery, false advertising, and when necessary, enforcement by police
action. A citizen’s mind suffers a multifaceted control system. Bureaucracies,
religion, entertainment, everyday rituals, they all play a part in harnessing
people for control. Feminists have
always known this. They talk about
consciousness-raising.
I: Like what "woke" means
for Black Lives Matter?
A: I don’t want to
speak for BLM, but I assume it is similar.
Realizing, well, that you’re in something like The Matrix. Or Pleasantville. Everyone is programmed to believe obvious
lies.
I: Obvious lies?
A: Not only
obvious, but you have to force yourself to believe them, or pretend to believe them extremely well. It’s a loyalty test, this fawning subservience. It breaks the soul and harnesses it to the dictator.
I: And the
solution is?
A: In some
countries, the brainwashing has been too successful and complete. North Korean citizens cannot get free of the
parasitic bond, I'd say, not without external help.
I: Why?
A: Punishment
is swift, efficient and vicious. Sometimes the whole family of the offender is imprisoned. Also, strict, efficacious regimentation ensures that
most will internalize worship of the dictator.
I: Surveillance
technology is getting stronger, allowing Orwellian monitoring and loyalty
scores. This is what is going on in China.
A: Yes.
I: And what about
here, in the USA?
A: First, realize
this: Trump almost succeeded in becoming
a dictator. He turned a large bloc of mostly
White voters into a cult following. He conned
them into believing that everyone else is out to get them. It’s the ancient strategy. Fear wins out.
I: This is a
dangerous time.
A:
Absolutely. Those with ears to
hear, listen: democracy faces an historic threat.
If the USA falls to tyranny, the world is locked in a
doom-spiral.
I: How so?
A: When fear wins,
it leads to war. And the next
large-scale war will be nuclear. The USA
has thousands of nukes.
I: Okay, so, how
does this end?
A: Most likely
badly. And not because we don’t have great
potential to live with open minds in wonderful, happy societies. It’s not in our nature to go to war. This is about the 1000 people scenario I
mentioned.
I: Where a few
realize they can control the others.
A: Yes, that is
the way it happens. A few people use
fear to subvert the reasoning process and monopolize power.
I: It’s a con job.
A: Yes, one that uses an exploit in the human psyche. And the way out is pretty simple. Just be able to recognize the con. Realize that we are all better off if we work
together. That being motivated by fear
and greed is not the best we can do. We
can be motivated by something higher, the Good.
I: Aren’t we
motivated to do Good already?
A: Yes, but that
motivation is co-opted by the larger system of parasitic control. For instance, Trump’s cultish followers think
he is God's agent, when in fact he is conning them and fanning their racism.
I: How does this relate
to gaslighting?
A: Gaslighting has always been around.
Constructed realities that not only defy logic and empirical verification, but are immune to them.
I: Whoever
controls Q controls the Q-anon crowd.
A: Right. Or Q gives power to Trump, by declaring him to
be a messianic savior.
I: And the only
way to be a climber in the power structure is to support the gas-lighter’s
reality.
A: Yes. The climbers fawn all over and worship an Emperor who wears no clothes.
I: While praising the clothes as the finest they've ever seen. So, you said there is a
catch-22?
A: Well, education
is the inoculant. You know, critical thinking skills, science, emotional competence techniques. Healthy ways to evaluate and work with our passions.
I: We don’t
get taught these?
A: In college,
maybe. If you choose certain majors. But the parasitic power structure doesn’t
want wise citizens. It wants insecure,
vulnerable, ignorant citizens.
I: So education is
the way out--and yet few people get educated, at least not the right way.
A: Correct. In a nutshell: to defeat the parasitic structure,
you need education, but the parasitic structure controls the institutions of
education. A catch-22.
I: What about people
like Greta Thunberg or Noam Chomsky? They challenge the power structures and have a large audience.
A: Thunberg is a
threat to the parasitic system, given our shifting times. But she, like Chomsky, is mostly drowned out by other more conformist messages, conveyed through mass
media.
I: But it could
get better?
A: Maybe. The old ways are being seriously
challenged. Gay marriage is now legal. Who would have thought that, ten
years ago?
I: There’s talk of a Universal Basic Income, which is
like Social Security, except for everyone.
A: Imagine a world
with UBI, where robots do most of the work. Humans could live meaningful lives, with dignity,
instead of being stressed out all the time. We
could work on achieving our potentials, instead of working to make someone else
rich, while we barely get by.
I: That’s a possible world?
A: It’s clearly possible. And we can overcome
fear-based ignorance. No one today challenges
a women’s right to vote. Just one
hundred years ago, it was still an anathema to a big chunk of the US population.
I: Changes in
culture show how we can change.
A: How adaptable we are. Prejudice and war are not foreordained. We
can steer culture, instead of it steering us.
I: It is an
amazing time.
A: As I see it, the future of humanity can be heaven, a UBI and eudaimonia, which is total flourishing. Or it can be a totalitarian hell with loyalty scores and genocide, as we’re seeing with the Uighurs in China.
I: What is the deciding factor, do you think?
A: Younger generations, maybe. If they get the time, but ...
I: But?
A: It could all end at any moment. Civilization gone, just like that.
I: We shouldn't give up, though.
A: Never. But ... It’s
just so sad that many people are still living in cardboard boxes, or literally must break
rocks with hammers to earn enough money to pay for their next meal. There’s so much that is …. so sad. And I am quite tired of facing the
ignorance. It's all around. Right outside my door. The programmatic parasitic
power structures ... the fear and hate ... I … I'm just a thinker. A puny, flawed one. A copy of the weakest caricature of a prophet ... not even close to a Moses ... and he didn't even get to ...
[At this point the Author requested a break and did not
return to finish the interview]
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